*sigh* It's Zeus................AGAIN!

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    These last 3 weeks have been a doozie. My mother in law has passed in Ohio and it was a 3 week process. I live in Alabama so we had to travel to Ohio 3 times in 3 weeks to square everything away. We own our own business, and are a sole proprietor so we had to keep returning.

    Our son was in charge of our dogs. He works full time and doesnt live at home anymore so the dogs had alot of down time while we were gone. But he managed to fit them in his schedule the best that he could. They got fed & let out & watered.

    Problem: One of those nasty feral cats had gotten in our front fenced yard one night. Of course, my dogs hate cats and will kill them. It was about 10:30pm, and he let the dogs out. The cat must have been hiding under the porch because that's where evidence is that the catch started. When my son ran out the door, Zeus had the cat----this happened within seconds, very fast....and he tried to call Zeus and everything he could to get Zeus off the cat. Finally he had to pull Zeus by the collar, and practically drag him inside off the cat.

    That night Zeus was fine. The next day, Zeus barked at everything and was fine. That night, when we returned home, Zeus has lost his voice. His horrible hound dog barked turned into a walrus sounding "oof". The next morning, no voice, just a squeak and it sounds like he is whispering.

    I called the vet, they said he could have worn his voice out because he screams and screeches when he gets ahold of a cat. Give him a day or two. 2 days later-no voice. I take him to the vet...just in case somethings in his throat.....nothing. No swelling. He is eating. He is breathing. He is happy. He seems perfectly fine. He still tries to bark at the cats when he sees them...but whispers.

    A week tomorrow, and no voice. I imagine, if grabbing him by the collar caused any damage, it would be seen...right? But there is zero swelling. Zero marks. Zero anything, just no voice! What in the world else could be going on?? Any suggestions? 2 vet visits in one week, plus 3 trips to Ohio, I am seriously going broke here!!! And Google shows nothing
     
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    That is so weird. I guess the dog got larengitis from barking so much. How did you son grab him? Could the collar have caused the damage? Ask the vet if you should get an x-ray. It does seem weird since the dog is eating normally.
     
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    It was forceful. Zeus gets "out of hand" and that is putting it lightly, when he gets a cat. It isnt pretty. He had to grab the collar and literally drag him inside. I too thought damage, but there is no swelling at all. No breathing problems...no eating or drining problems and he acts happy! There has to be damage. Because his voice would have at least started to come back by now. And as far as the vet goes....xrays do not show good pics of any cartilage damage...and obviously his necks not broken....and he literally seems ok, then why worry???



    I have to admit, it IS so much quieter...
     
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    I found this on the net. After hours of searching this is all I can aome up with...
    Laryngeal Trauma

    Choke chain injuries, tight slip collars, or any rope around the neck can fracture the hyoid bone and/or cause compression damage to the nerves of the pharynx and larynx. Other causes of trauma to the larynx include bite wounds and sharp foreign objects such as bones and pins that penetrate the larynx. Dogs with laryngeal injuries often breathe normally at rest but show respiratory distress during exertion.
    Treatment: Treatment of laryngeal trauma involves confining and resting the dog and administering anti-inflammatory medications. If the larynx is severely traumatized, a tracheostomy (an operation in which an opening is made through the skin into the trachea to establish a new airway) may be required. Choke chain injuries can be prevented by using a buckle collar, head halter, or chest harness

    He doesnt show res distress at all, even after running and barking (whispering) for a long time. And obviously he doesnt need a trach.
     
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    Turmeric is an anti-inflammatory herb. It is safe for dogs. You can get it in capsule form. Empy the capsule in the dog's food.
     
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    Wow... sorry to hear your mother in laws passing and Zeus voice... Is there any way they can do an ultra sound on his throat that will show anything?
     
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    Based on what you describe, "The next day, Zeus barked at everything and was fine" I think he just wore out his barker. This happens from time to time with my more vocal dogs. If your vet says he fine and he is breathing, eating and otherwise doing everything else as he normally would. Enjoy the peace!
     
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    Zeus STILL has no voice. He can "mouth" a bark, but all I hear is air. There must be a high pitch coming from him as well....I cannot hear it, but when he does this, the other dogs start howling LOL....I feel so bad )=
     
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    Wow! I will be curious as to how long it will take for him to get his barker back!
     
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    As long as it is not hurting him & he is healthy, I hope a LONG time! Lol, I dont miss his aweful sounding bark, BUT I do feel horrible for him! So, I reckin' I'd be thankful if it came back!
     
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    Sorry to hear about your mother! I hope Zeus will get soon too!

    Someone was telling me their dog had a similar problem, and when they checked their dog, they found nothing, no marks whatsoever. Their vet told them the same thing as your vet did, however, the person who told me this said even a month later, their dog couldn't bark, so when they went back to their vet, he did surgery on the dog and found there was "some" damage to the larynix (sorry about the spelling), and he told them that just because they didn't see marks at that area of the neck doesn't mean there wasn't any damage. I just hope this isn't the case with your dog.
     
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    Zeusy STILL has just a squeaky toy bark! No sign of his normal voice coming back. He pry did some permenant damage-Hubby is terrible....if you ask him "What ZEUS?" He always answers-but now he just sounds like a dog chomping on a squeaky toy, and hubby gets a kick out of making him bark! Terrible!!!
     
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    Poor Zeus!!! As long as he's eating and drinking without issues, I would not be worried.
     
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